Looking for a Mustang

[Jammin]

I have a FFR cobra that has been finished for 4 years. I am looking at getting my hands dirty again and would like to find a 1967-68 fastback mustang. I am in the early planning stages of this and would like to know a couple of things about these cars

1 Is there anything that rots out that is not fixable
2 What is the rarest of the fastbacks in 67-68 years
3 Are all panels,frame rails, interior, ect available to purchase still
4 Whats a good price for a car that needs a full restoration, but is 90% complete

[Gordon Levy]

There are quite a few fastbacks built in those years. The rarest would probably be the 68 Q code 428 cars.
There are getting harder to come by because people are making Ellenor cars out of them.
You should be able to find a reasonable condition complete car for $5000-$7500.

[Naga]

Or, you can get one of these John. You won't be able to get as greasy tho!:)

http://www.dynacornclassicbodies.com/models.html

http://www.dynacornclassicbodies.com/images/mustangModel67.jpg

[cobradvm]

I have a FFR cobra that has been finished for 4 years. I am looking at getting my hands dirty again and would like to find a 1967-68 fastback mustang. I am in the early planning stages of this and would like to know a couple of things about these cars

1 Is there anything that rots out that is not fixable
2 What is the rarest of the fastbacks in 67-68 years
3 Are all panels,frame rails, interior, ect available to purchase still
4 Whats a good price for a car that needs a full restoration, but is 90% complete

My 2 cents...

1. There is nothing that can't be fixed on these cars, however one area you want to avoid would be rusted out cowl vents. If you pour a gallon of water down the cowl vent, it should drain out to the ground, however many of theses cars will have rusted out cowl vents which will leak that water into the interior and start ot rust out the floor pans, and ruin the carpet etc. If the water leaks inside it will be damp in the corners just below those vents


2. Engine numbers...
****************************1967****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
6 200 1V 120@4400 190@2400 T
8 289 2V 200@4400 282@2400 C
8 289 4V 225@4800 305@3200 A
8 289 4V 271@6000 312@3400 K
8 390 4V 320@4800 427@3200 S

****************************1968****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
6 200 1V 120@4400 190@2400 T
8 289 2V 200@4400 282@2400 C
8 302 2V 210@4400 295@2400 F
8 302 4V 235@4800 318@2400 J
8 390 N/A 265@4400 390@2600 X
8 390 4V 320@4800 427@3200 S
8 427 4V 390@5600 460@3200 W
8 428 4V 335@5200 440@3400 R

(Coulnd't find a Q code for 67/68 - earliest I can find is 69)

Production Numbers

*****************1967******************
2d Hardtop 356,271
Converitble 44,808
Fastback 71,042
GT-350 1,175
GT-500 2,050
TOTAL: 472,121
*****************1968******************
2d Hardtop 249,447
Convertible 25,376
Fastback 42,581
428CJ Fastback 2,253
428CJ Hardtop 564
428CJ Convertible 13
GT/CS 4,025
GT-350 2d Fastback Coupe 1,253
GT-350 2d Convertible 404
GT-500 2d Fastback Coupe 1,140
GT-500 2d Convertible 402
GT-500KR 2d Fastback Coupe 933
GT-500KR 2d Convertible 318
TOTAL: 317,404

3. All parts are easily available - just depends on how deep your pockets are.

4. Prices are all over the place as you might expect. Rustbuckets missing a bunch of stuff are about $3-$5k
Cars that need a lot of body work and paint are probably in the $10-$15k range.
Completed drivers would be in the $20-$35k range
Show cars are $35-$40k on up with the GT-350s etc in the 6 figures.

[Mustang Man]

CobraDVM's pricing is more accurate. The '67-'68 body style is the hottest classic Mustang right now and the pricing reflects it. I saw a rusted '68 shell (no glass, drivetrain, etc.) leave CJ Pony Parts' used parts lot for $8K last year...

I would not recommend the Dynacorn body unless you have a complete car to transfer parts from. Building from scratch with this body (like doing an FFR) is very expensive. We're building one for SEMA with the TV show Chop-Cut-Rebuild and we're at almost $40K with body, suspension, and parts to finish body (hood, bumpers, etc.). That's NOT including full drivetrain, interior, glass, and more. It'll be a $60K car by the time it makes it to SEMA...

Mark

[FFR428]

I see a W 427 code Mustang in that list. :D To date I don't think anyone has documented one of those. I'd love to hear and see if anyone has any info on those. I'd think the 68.5 "135" cars are among the rare ones. S codes are getting hard to find that aren't a fortune. Last year I spent countless months looking for a nice 67-68 fastback project. Everything for the money was just not worth it. Since then the market has become more buyer friendly. Stangs are still up there but a little more reasonable it seems. Guy I know on another forum picked up a nice 67 Stang S code 390 4sp fastback for $6k. Car is in really nice shape and would easily sell for double+ that. Last fastback we did was a $800 beater 68 before the "E" craze. It was my sons first car and was a nice little driver when done. Car was a 302 4v with a C4. We did more metal work on that car than all of mine put together I think!! :)

Do you want a big block or small block car?

[Calicoco]

I was at KAR Mustang today in Columbus. About 7-8 65-66 mustang conv in house, only one 67 fastback that was a customers car. Unique performance has really driven up the price lon the 67/68 fastbacks. They have taken a lot of good cars and made them into Eleanors. I like the Eleanor look, but I don't want to see it saturate the market. What will will do in 10 years, buy an Eleanor and change it back to its original condition. As for the 65/66 mustangs, you don't see to many anymore, even at car shows. It may be a good time to pick up a nice conv, while the fastbacks are going for such a high price.

[sl1993r]

I looked at a 67 T code fastback 2 weeks ago. It had already sold by the time I looked at it. $4500. It had a 8.8 independent rear our of a T-bird in it and a Mustang II front suspension welded in. The workmanship was poor. The floor pans were rusted out years ago, and new ones welded in over the top. The second set of floor pans also had holes in it. The dash was stripped along with the wiring from the car. No glass or interior either. Included was a used 351 engine from a Torino that was sitting near by.

A couple months prior, looked at 68 J code fastback. It had heavy collision damage from 15 plus years ago. Front end was smashed back so far, that the A pillar, door hinge area had buckles. The car had set outside with windows out of it, and had lots of rust, and animal droppings. My friend bought it for $4000. I thought both of these buys were terrible, but that might be where the market is.